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Beelzebob

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Re: bought a Harp Attack from Lonewolf
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2013, 08:57:53 PM »
Thanks Rick, I look at these pedals so much, not in the budget right now, but one day.  Randy has been busy, he has an anti-feedback pedal now, a reverb, and a special pedal he designed with Jason Ricci (a compressor).

Man, why is harp gear so expensive?

harps $40-$150 EACH, and you need many unless you're Tinus.

jt30 or GB mic with a vintage element $300

Amp $400 - $2000 or more

pedals by Lone Wolf and others $100 to $200 each, some harpers have as many as guitar players

More harps when yours die out  $$$$$

Guitar- you can buy an expensive American Fender, Gibson or PRS, but almost everyone agrees the low end gear is really good stuff (except Gibson).  My strat is awesome, it was $200 new.  So you set it up once, change the strings occasionally, and you're good.  Amp and pedals are the only items in common with harp, but availability makes them cheaper generally, though there are exceptions.

There are lots of guitar guys with GAS (Guitar Acquisition Syndrome), but they don't need the extra guitars and many GAS guys will just end up on a reality intervention tv show someday.

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Re: bought a Harp Attack from Lonewolf
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2013, 12:07:50 AM »
I've probably bought more harmonica hardware than I need  ;)  But one item that I've *used* is the Lone Wolf Harp Delay. Based on the quality of that unit, the Harp Attack or Harp Break would be tempting, if I could decide between them  :o

-Eric

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Re: bought a Harp Attack from Lonewolf
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2013, 11:28:47 AM »
I play my guitars and harmonica directly "into the board" so I don't use an amp.   Although I do have two unused harp amps, one of Randy's and a Kalamazoo that needs work.

Here is my list for the budget harp player:

$100 JT30 bought on ebay, one of those deals where the element is in an unknown status.   (I've bought a lot of JT's that worked that way)

$140 (or so) Lone wolf Harp Attack

$150 Some sort of delay.  I like delays with stereo outs.  It comes after the Lonewolf so pretty much anything you like will do

$150 And  nice mixer to connect to your  computer.   Buy something used on ebay with a secondary bus.

No amp at all.   When you go out you play through the PA with the Harp Break.

$??   Some other mic for going to open mics with.   I never would take my fragile JT30 out of the house.   Once you find a good one.   Unless you find a bunch.    I do have a bunch, but I still would not take them out.   I don't like taking antique gear out of the house.   So, maybe buy a newer Hohner version or something.   I remember hearing good reviews on those.

At any rate, that Lonewolf Harp break sample you heard was straight to the board.   Tone-wise, why try to improve on that?

Just as an aside, while I am chattering on, when I was playing the Harp Attack, when I the distortion turned out and used vibrato on the higher notes, it sounded just like the renaissance  trumpet in "Penny Lane".

I have heard other people do that tone on harp with distortion for a few seconds (and then with a lot of harsh sounding sounds).  But both Harp Break and Attack were so very musical in their tone.    I felt like I really could have practiced it a bit and made  that renaissance trumpet tone come out for an extended period of time, for the whole solo.

I know what you mean about being paralyzed by being unable to choose between the Break and the Attack.   I was too, so I bought both using PayPal's pay later plan.   There is no interest if you pay in full within 6 months.   I still have not exactly paid for them yet.   (cough)  (turning head around making sure the wife is not reading this over my shoulder).

So I could sell one back on ebay and recoup some costs, but I want to keep it and play the guitar through it.    Just imagine, those low strings voiced like a harmonica.     Mmmmmmmmmmm.





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Re: bought a Harp Attack from Lonewolf
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2013, 11:40:19 AM »
I guess it's worth saying that if you like playing in front of an amp with this chain:

mic  -> delay  ->  amp

Then the lonewolf delay is what you want.

But if you are more like me and do

mic  -> distortion pedal  ->delay   -> board      or
mic -> distortion pedal -> delay   -> amp

Then you can choose from a larger number of delays.

It is interesting to note that Lonewolf in his documentation suggests

mic ->delay  -> distortion pedal  -> amp

He flips the delay and distortion. 

When you change the order you always get a different sound.   I have to admit that I have not even tried his way of ordering things.  I was really happy with my alternate order, so I had no motivation to try, especially since all I have are "guitar" delays and reverbs.

Don't you love it how you can talk endlessly about this stuff and never ever come to any real conclusion.   Ha ha.    It's like sharing ingredients for baking a cake.

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Re: bought a Harp Attack from Lonewolf
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2013, 02:06:13 PM »
The great thing about Lone Wolf stuff is that it has high resale value.  I've seen used LW pedals sell for more on eBay than Randy charges for them new. 

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Re: bought a Harp Attack from Lonewolf
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2013, 03:00:06 PM »
Harp by itself is cheap and fun to play. I started off with one in my pocket, a gift, playing it wherever I went. Molding notes/tone/sounds/melodies just for the pleasure of it - with different natural acoustics - in a tiled room, in a stand of rock by the river, a stairwell, gymnasium, empty rooms, rooms lined with books, next to a campfire, while walking down a street or a dirt road... playing into a cup, or a can, or while tapping spoons in one hand.

The first time I considered buying an amp was out of necessity when I started playing in crowds - but found that there was usually an amp available when I needed one. I looked around at mic's, because finding a mic that sounded good through what were all tube amps way back then  ;)  got me started on hardware after the first time I crunched the sound ("overloading the preamp")  ::)  But listening to people like Sonny Terry and Big Walter I knew that it wasn't the electronics that made the musician.

I bought a few more harps, but it didn't really start getting expensive until I started recording and listening to yooz guys  ;D

-Eric

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Re: bought a Harp Attack from Lonewolf
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2013, 06:56:27 PM »
Yeah, the good old days, sitting on a stoop with a pint and your $3.25 Hohner Marine Band in just tuning.  Of course, I saw Led Zeppelin for $4.50, just for perspective.  Gas was 30 cents a gallon.  I made $2.00 an hour.  It was 1970.

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Re: bought a Harp Attack from Lonewolf
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2013, 08:05:54 PM »
Ha ha, I was just a little later than you Beelzebub.   I bought my Hohner BluesHarps for $5 a shot.