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Coodercaster --slide guitar -- !! Warning !! No harp content
« on: February 21, 2012, 12:36:23 AM »
This is some slide guitar stuff.

Someone demonstrating a Coodercaster he built to emulate Ry Cooder in Crossroads.

I am obsessed by these.  :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SD_9msF6Cw

Providence VLC-1 Velvet Compressor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b5UyXssvDw

Monster Effects Swamp Thing Tremolo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ubxv69ERo

The Providence SDR5 Sonic Drive Pedal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG2v058gyOo


 Providence Anadime Chorus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44cTMA4gE6M&feature=relmfu

Picture of the real Coodercaster
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=931438


http://michaelmesser.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=talkingblues&action=print&thread=2690
Ry Cooder's guitar is:
The sunburst 'Buddy Holly Reissue' Coodercaster was fitted with the budget mail order Oahu pickup (with the one fake wooden magnet) to complete the Crossroads soundtrack project. This instrument has subsequently been modified many times, with the neck pickup being changed from the Gibson PAF humbucker to a Teisco Gold Foil at the suggestion of David Lindley sometime during or after 1988. We know it certainly had a Teisco neck pickup by 1992, but this may have been fitted much earlier. It is fitted with roundwound strings and is usually tuned to Open D.


http://michaelmesser.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=talkingblues&action=print&thread=3249
Forget trying to get a Teisco Goldfoil - you also need to find a Teisco pickup built before 1965, when the magnets and windings all changed, and there are very few about. Later Teisco pickups are rather more plentiful and almost indistinguishable in appearance (but not in sound).

http://robbsend.com/pb/wp_16d49ad4/wp_16d49ad4.html

Two basic new solidbodies were introduced in ’62, The SD-4L/SD-2L and the SS-4L.

The SD is a classic. This had a more exaggerated Jazzmaster shape than the T-60. It had a dramatically swept back lower horn, and an offset pair of waists, looking as though it’s been slightly melted. These had bolt-on necks with the elongated Strat-style head, with round logo stickers. A rectangular plastic control panel was mounted above the strings, with large thumbwheel controls and on/off rocker switches, while a large-ish pickguard was mounted under the strings. The controls on the SD-4L were especially interesting, taking their cue from the Italians, no doubt. The thumbwheels were for volume and tone, while there were a total of six rocker switches. Four of these were on/off for each of the four pickups, but in between were two more. Their function is unknown, but a good guess would be phase reversal between the front and back pairs of pickups. Both models had the rectangular fingerboard edge inlays. With “L” designations, both had vibratos. These consisted of a fairly simple bar for string attachment with a series of springs behind it, all covered with a hinged metal cover. The handle was extremely long. Pickups were the beefy tall rectangular type with metal cases and black plastic center tops with exposed pole pieces (these could be screws or squares). The SD-4L had four pickups, in two pairs, while the SD-2L had two

http://robbsend.com/pb/wp_16d49ad4/wp_16d49ad4.html
1965: Changing Their Stripes
A significant cosmetic change occurred in Japan in ’65, which can help determine dates. Previously, almost all models had plastic pickguards. In ’65, most models switched to striped metal guards, with the alternating matte stripes etched into the metal. Thus, if you find a guitar Teisco with a plastic guard, it’s probably from ’64 or early ’65. If it has a striped metal guard, it’s probably from ’65 or later.

http://www.mark-cole.co.uk/teisco/
He has a 2 gold foil pickup WG-2L, which he says was made in 1963.  it looks just like the guitars with the stripped pickups, except it does not have the stripes.  It had the burnished aluminum pickguard.

You need to find a 48mm nut width wide C section Fender Japan neck, made only for one year in 1984. Difficult to source.

As an alternative, you can buy a 1 3/4" neck from Warmoth, which is wide for a strat, but is obviously 1/8" narrower than the real thing.

http://soundcloud.com/honeyboy/ry-cooder-interview-2006

Make sure your body has the sprung tremolo block, the springs contribute substantially to the resonance of the sound.  Quote from Ry Cooder "What makes the whole thing work are the tremolo springs in the back. In fact, if you hold the guitar to yourself and choke off the springs, there goes the sound."

He also said he blocks that tremolo so it does not detune when he changes the tuning.

 too was interested in building one of these, contacted Lollar in the US and was told they'd sell me a Supro style pickup, plus they make a Teisco foil type but don't show it on their site. 

Hi 5slide,

Just for your information I read an interview with Ry Cooder some time ago and I'm almost certain he said that his Leopard Strat has a Fender C width 1 3/4" (45mm) neck on it. So, if you want to be super accurate and have a guitar like his the neck should be 1 3/4" wide and have a 70's large headstock.

Some info from Fender.com

There is occasional confusion about C, U and V neck profile designations and A, B, C and D neck width designations. From the early '60s to the early '70s, Fender referred specifically to the nut width of its instrument necks using the letters A (1 ½"), B (1 5/8"), C (1 ¾") and D (1 7/8"). These letters were stamped on the butt-end of the necks and had nothing to do with neck profile.

Page devoted to Ry's gear:
http://www.rycooder.nl/pages/ry_cooder_Instruments_gear_amps_effects.htm

Info on Tremolos
http://gretschpages.com/forum/other-equipment/brown-fender-tremolo-in-a-box/36919/page1/

There are several stomp boxes out there that claim to emulate a brown Fender style tremolo. For example:

Plush Creme de la Trem
Monster Effects Swamp Thang
Rockett Josh Smith Dual Tremolo
Bigfoot Magnavibe   --emulates a dif trem, not Fender
Toneczar Powerglide
Prescription FX THROB -- is a good throbby and lush trem,
the Frantone Vibutron
Tremolo Pedal Blue Bird Tremolo Pedal
Red witch Pentavocal pedal  -has ability to throb low notes, but play high notes regular!

Has anyone out there compared these pedals to each other and to regular boutique tremolo pedals like the Supa Trem?

Here is a sample of hte magnavibe sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ9eqDaJm6E
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That magnavibe sound just like the early 3 tube "harmonic" tremolo on the brown super amps and twin amps. You can hear it varies the low end and high end at opposite points of the cycle so you get that Leslie like swirl.

If you are looking for the other brown trem, that will be a soft throbbing trem that doesn't cut out entirely and is always rolling on an round curve. (that's my best description.)
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power tube bias vary tremolo = Swamp Thang

3-tube "harmonic vibrato" (has a phaser-ish quality) = Creme de la Trem, Catalinbread Pareidolia


supa-trem is neither. It's a blackface, opto-coupler, trem... and it's a modification of the Demeter trem.

Tremolo Pedal Blue Bird Tremolo Pedal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5jtqRlHrHo

Red witch Pentavocal pedal  -has ability to throb low notes, but play high notes regular!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlQp8W5fhzU&feature=related
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Dave Hill playing his Coodercaster
http://soundcloud.com/honeyboy/dave-hill-coodercaster-01-stay-or-go

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Strat springs
RawVintage.com

The wear and tear of parts from vintage guitars that were manufactured few decades ago can cause functionality problems. What vintage guitar users fear the most when these parts need to be replaced is if it will cause the sound to change significantly.


RVTS-1 (5-pc set)
Wire Diameter : 1.3mm
Overall Diameter : 8.86mm
Nickel Plated
MSRP: $20.00/set Online shop (USA & Canada Only) > 

Sound SampleRaw Vintage products Dealer List >Tremolo Spring is a part just as vital as the saddle and they are responsible for the fat sound of the 50's and 60's Stratocaster. Most newly manufactured springs have different characteristics from the vintage. They are hard with strong tension.
As one of the raw vintage product, we researched the vintage and matched the tension of the spring. And with the prerequisite of using 5 or 4 springs together, we were able to achieve superb torque feel and stabilized arming that were made possible from the difference in weight and contraction percentage. And with the increased weight, we were able to create Fat Tone.
These can be used as a replacement parts for the new reissued guitars, enabling their owners to enjoy the characteristic closer to the original.

We recommend you to use this in set of 5.

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More details about the gold foil

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=750423

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=722526

http://arteodell.wordpress.com/

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Finishing with Tru Oil
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2624593-Tru-Oil-question...

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Body Details
Here is a build with sound samples where a guy used an alder body from Wildwood

The neck is a custom made 12" radius from musikraft
http://www.strat-talk.com/forum/stratocaster-discussion-forum/117516-ngd-coodercaster-project-finally-complete.html


Compressor for slide
http://origineffects.com/SlideRIG.php#slideRigpricing

Sustain on a pole.  You move your guitar close and it agitates the strings.
www.vibesware.com
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